Boot Camp (character creation)

[Rabbit]

Sahmen Sweetwater [updated]

So he still has LOTS on gold available in his mundane items. i was thinking about buying lots of random things and keeping them in his 'weapons locker' for future missions. other than bying al lthat he is 100% done.

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[reefwood]

Apr 27, 2010 12:04:40 GMT -5 Rabbit said:

Sahmen Sweetwater [updated]

So he still has LOTS on gold available in his mundane items. i was thinking about buying lots of random things and keeping them in his 'weapons locker' for future missions. other than bying al lthat he is 100% done.

All the corrections and adjustments look good, except that Diplomacy is still listed too low.

And once you finish buying mundane equipment, be sure to keep the total load on your horse to no more than 300 lb due to likely fatigue. Sahme weighs 220 lb and the military saddle is 30 lb, so that gives him 50 lbs to spare for equipment to bring. Of course, you can take the gamble that your horse will be able to pull through the Rift without fatigue, and then, drop equipment along the way if it does succumb to fatigue.

To avoid fatigue in the Rift, the horse would need to succeed on the first 5 saves against heat damage. Also in the 5th hour in the Rift, it will take Forced March damage that causes fatigue, but a successful Heal check might be able to remove that damage (and with it, remove the fatigue). There will be at least a 6th hour in the Rift, but the heat damage and Forced March damage sets in at the end of the hour, and at the end of the 6th hour, you will be out of the Rift if there has not been some lengthy delay.

[reefwood]

7th-level

Just want to make sure that everyone knows you gain a feat this level, and be sure to add any spoils taken to your load.

[reefwood]

Sahme, level 7

HD: 6 ([6, 5, 2, 4, 2, 6, 12],[14con],[7toughness],[6class])
HP: 54 Current: 54
(fire resistance 5, acid resistance 5, cold resistance 5, and electricity resistance 5)

HD is now 7, and 12 is listed as the more recent HD roll, but from 49 hp at 6th level, it looks like you rolled 2 (+2 Con +1 toughness) for a total of +5 hp at 7th level to bring total hit points up to 54.

HORSE:
AC: 22/26 [10+3dex+4armor+1dodge+3natural+1deflection] w/ shield
Flat: 17/22 Touch: 14

The dragon disciple increase to natural armor also increases flat-footed AC. At 6th level, flat-footed AC was 17/21 for Sahme, so now it should be 18/22. And the line you have for your horse is blank.

Blood of Dragons: A dragon disciple adds his level to his sorcerer levels when determining the powers gained from his bloodline... This ability does not grant bonus spells to a sorcerer unless he possesses spell slots of an appropriate level. Such bonus spells are automatically granted if the sorcerer gains spell slots of the spell's level

It is written kind of funny, but I think your dragon disciple levels do stack with sorcerer for receiving draconic bloodline bonus spells. You get the spell as long as you have a slot of proper spell level. The draconic bloodline receives fly at 7th level, and this is a 3rd level spell. Sahme has 3rd level slots, so you should add this to his spell list.

05 [1+3+1+0+0] Appraise (Int)
03 [0+0+3+0+0] Bluff (Cha)
05 [0+0+3+0+2] Diplomacy (Cha) v
11 [1+3+3+0+4] Fly (Dex)
08 [2+3+3+0+0] Intimidate (Cha)
09 [5+3+1+0+0] Knowledge (arcana) (Int)
08 [2+3+1+0+2] Perception (Wis)
10 [3+3+1+3+0] Profession (military) (Wis)**
13 [6+3+1+3+0] Spell Craft (Int)**

Looks like you added 1 rank to Intimidate and Prof(military), so that's 2 skill ranks, but you get 3 (2 +1 Int).

[reefwood]

Brion, Level 7

Were his feat and skill ranks changed? And I still haven't seen the first final update of Brion. Can you post it before the next session on Tuesday?

[michael]

Sergeant Brion Shaw, lvl 7 Human Cleric of Gorum
True Neutral
6'4'', 218 lbs

WIS - 18 - +4
CHA - 16 - +3
STR - 15 - +2
CON - 16 - +3
DEX - 12 - +1
INT - 10 - 0

FORT - 8, REF - 3, WILL - 9
BAB - 5
CMB - 7 [2 STR + 5 BA]
CMD - 18 [5 BA + 2 STR + 1 DEX + 10]
HP - 69
AC - 21 [11 touch, 20 flat-footed]

ATTACKS
+1 MW Greatsword (2d6, 19-20 crit/x2, 8lbs, 2h Martial, slashing)
---+8 Melee (2d6+4) OR Power Attack +6 Melee (2d6+10)
MW Longspear (1d8, 20 crit/x3, 2h simple, piercing, brace, reach)
---+8 Melee (1d8+3) OR Power Attack +6 Melee (1d8+9)
Morningstar (1d8, 20 crit/x2, 6lbs, 1h simple, blud/pierce)
---+7 Melee (1d8+2) OR Power Attack +5 Melee (1d8+6)
MW Heavy Crossbow (1d10, 19-20 crit/x2, 120 ft, 8lbs, 2h simple, pierce)
---+7 ranged (1d10)

SPELLS
Orisons: 4 DC 14
1st lvl: 5 + 1 domain (4 + 1 wisdom) DC 15
2nd lvl: 4 + 1 domain (3 + 1 wisdom) DC 16
3rd lvl: 3 + 1 domain (2 + 1 wisdom) DC 17
4th lvl: 2 + 1 domain (1 + 1 wisdom) DC 18

CHANNELING
4d6 healing or damage to undead
30 ft radius
8 per day
DC 18 will save to resist damage from channeling (16+2 from glory domain)

SKILLS (+2 point from favored class)
Intimidate 13 = 4 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 3 (CHA mod) + 3 (competance)
Survival 11 = 1 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 4 (WIS mod) + 3 (competance)
Sense Motive 10 = 3 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod)
Diplomacy 7 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 3 (CHA mod)
Profession (Military) 13 = 6 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mos)
Heal 10 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod) + 2 Healer's Kit
Linguistics 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (History) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (Arcana) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Spellcraft 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Ride 2 = 3 (rank) + 3 (skill focus) + 1 (DEX mod) - 5 (AC Penalty)

Concentration - 15

FEATS
Armor proficiency (heavy) - Military Feat
Toughness - Military Feat
Selective Channeling
Extra Channeling
Power Attack
Combat Casting
Skill Focus: Ride

DOMAINS
Glory
--Touch of Glory: +7 on CHA check [7 uses per day]
--Shield of Faith [lvl 1 spell]
--Bless Weapon [lvl 2 spell]
--Searing Light [lvl 3 spell]
-- Holy Smite [lvl 4]
War
--Battle Rage: +3 ATK on touched creature [7 uses per day]
--Magic Weapon [lvl 1]
--Spirit Weapon [lvl 2]
--Magic Vestament [lvl 3]
-- Divine Power [lvl 4]

LANGUAGES
Common
Elven

EQUIPMENT
+1 MW Greatsword - 8 lbs, (MW Melee, 350 gp)
+1 MW Full Plate - 50 lbs
MW Banded Mail - 35 lbs (MW Armor, 400 gp) [LOCKER]
MW Tower Shield - 45 lbs (MW Shield, 180 gp) [LOCKER]
Morningstar - 6 lbs (Nonmagic Weapon, 8 gp) [LOCKER]
MW Heavy Crossbow - 8 lbs (MW Ranged Weapon, 350 gp)
---50 bolts - 5 lbs (Nonmagic Ammunition, 5 gp)
MW Buckler - 5 lbs (Spoils) [LOCKER]
MW Longspear - 9 lbs (Spoils) [LOCKER]
+1 Breastplate [LOCKER]

ITEMS
Holy Symbol of Gorum (wood) - (Adventuring Gear, 1 gp)
Spell Pouch - 2 lbs (Adventuring Gear, 5 gp)
Sack - .5 lb (Adventuring Gear, 1 sp)
Inkpen - (Adventuring Gear, 1 sp)
Ink, 1 oz vial, (Adventuring Gear, 8 gp)
Paper, 20 sheets (Adventuring Gear, 8 gp)
Healer's Kit - 1 lb (Adventuring Gear, 50 gp)
x2 Pearls of Power, 1st lvl (Minor Wondrous Item, 1000 gp)
1 Potion of Cure Serious Wounds - .1 lb
1 Scroll of Cure Light Wounds
Wand of Cure Serious Wounds (x3 charges)
3 Scrolls of Dispell Magic
Scroll of Sanctuary - .5 lb (Potions & Scrolls, 25 gp)
Feather Token, Swan Boat - (Minor Wondrous Item, 450 gp)
Universal Solvent - (Minor Wondrous Item, 50 gp)
Wand of Silence
Wand of Summon Monster II

189 gp

CARRYING CAPACITY
LIGHT LOAD - 66 lbs or less
MEDIUM LOAD - 67-133 lbs
HEAVY LOAD - 134-200 lbs

Current load - 77.1 lbs

I changed Brion's alignment. He was chaotic neutral, but I've been playing him (and thinking of him) closer towards true neutral. I think the responsibilities that come with a higher rank have tempered him a bit.

I was also unsure whether or not I've earned any income since I last leveled up. How many days did we spend at level 6 before leaving on this mission? Was it one or none?

[reefwood]

Brion, level 7

The update looks mostly good. Although, I only see 1 skill rank added at this level, and he should get 3 (2 Clr +1 human). Or am I missing something?

Also, I noticed that you labeled which items were in the weapons locker back at camp. Thanks for doing that, but I thought you wound up taking a lot of those items with you? At the start of the previous chapter, everyone did strip down in case the horses became fatigued in the Rift, but when a new route was selected that went outside of the Rift, I thought most equipment was taken?

And where did he get the +1 breastplate? Was it taken off the "wise one"? It wasn't listed as part of his level 6 equipment, so if he did pick it up in the previous chapter, Brion has to have it with him if he wants to keep it.

Anyway, figure out his current load only based on the items that he is currently carrying.

Changing alignment makes sense at times, and I'm cool with it as long as it doesn't interfere with the deity you have...which might not even matter as much in Pathfinder...but oh! The spells you cast are still restricted by the alignment of your character and your deity. Did you cast order's wrath in the last session? Brion doesn't have access to that spell because it is a lawful spell, and his deity is chaotic. No worries on the mistake this time, especially since it didn't seem to make a difference, but let's try to be more on top of this now that it has come up.

As for income pool, it has been listed with Rewards in the story threads for the past few chapters. Chapter 6 gave everyone 1 day of 6th-level income pool for Day 17.

Jun 7, 2010 20:15:11 GMT -5 michael said:

Sergeant Brion Shaw, lvl 7 Human Cleric of Gorum
True Neutral
6'4'', 218 lbs

WIS - 18 - +4
CHA - 16 - +3
STR - 15 - +2
CON - 16 - +3
DEX - 12 - +1
INT - 10 - 0

FORT - 8, REF - 3, WILL - 9
BAB - 5
CMB - 7 [2 STR + 5 BA]
CMD - 18 [5 BA + 2 STR + 1 DEX + 10]
HP - 69
AC - 21 [11 touch, 20 flat-footed]

ATTACKS
+1 MW Greatsword (2d6, 19-20 crit/x2, 8lbs, 2h Martial, slashing)
---+8 Melee (2d6+4) OR Power Attack +6 Melee (2d6+10)
MW Longspear (1d8, 20 crit/x3, 2h simple, piercing, brace, reach)
---+8 Melee (1d8+3) OR Power Attack +6 Melee (1d8+9)
Morningstar (1d8, 20 crit/x2, 6lbs, 1h simple, blud/pierce)
---+7 Melee (1d8+2) OR Power Attack +5 Melee (1d8+6)
MW Heavy Crossbow (1d10, 19-20 crit/x2, 120 ft, 8lbs, 2h simple, pierce)
---+7 ranged (1d10)

SPELLS
Orisons: 4 DC 14
1st lvl: 5 + 1 domain (4 + 1 wisdom) DC 15
2nd lvl: 4 + 1 domain (3 + 1 wisdom) DC 16
3rd lvl: 3 + 1 domain (2 + 1 wisdom) DC 17
4th lvl: 2 + 1 domain (1 + 1 wisdom) DC 18

CHANNELING
4d6 healing or damage to undead
30 ft radius
8 per day
DC 18 will save to resist damage from channeling (16+2 from glory domain)

SKILLS (+2 point from favored class)
Intimidate 12 = 3 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 3 (CHA mod) + 3 (competance)
Survival 11 = 1 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 4 (WIS mod) + 3 (competance)
Sense Motive 10 = 3 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod)
Diplomacy 7 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 3 (CHA mod)
Profession (Military) 11 = 4 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mos)
Heal 10 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod) + 2 Healer's Kit
Linguistics 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (History) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (Arcana) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Spellcraft 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Ride 0 = 1 (rank) + 3 (skill focus) + 1 (DEX mod) - 5 (AC Penalty)

Concentration - 15

FEATS
Armor proficiency (heavy) - Military Feat
Toughness - Military Feat
Selective Channeling
Extra Channeling
Power Attack
Combat Casting
Skill Focus: Ride

DOMAINS
Glory
--Touch of Glory: +7 on CHA check [7 uses per day]
--Shield of Faith [lvl 1 spell]
--Bless Weapon [lvl 2 spell]
--Searing Light [lvl 3 spell]
-- Holy Smite [lvl 4]
War
--Battle Rage: +3 ATK on touched creature [7 uses per day]
--Magic Weapon [lvl 1]
--Spirit Weapon [lvl 2]
--Magic Vestament [lvl 3]
-- Divine Power [lvl 4]

LANGUAGES
Common
Elven

EQUIPMENT
+1 MW Greatsword - 8 lbs, (MW Melee, 350 gp)
+1 MW Full Plate - 50 lbs
MW Banded Mail - 35 lbs (MW Armor, 400 gp) [LOCKER]
MW Tower Shield - 45 lbs (MW Shield, 180 gp) [LOCKER]
Morningstar - 6 lbs (Nonmagic Weapon, 8 gp) [LOCKER]
MW Heavy Crossbow - 8 lbs (MW Ranged Weapon, 350 gp) [LOCKER]
---50 bolts - 5 lbs (Nonmagic Ammunition, 5 gp)
MW Buckler - 5 lbs (Spoils) [LOCKER]
MW Longspear - 9 lbs (Spoils) [LOCKER]
+1 Breastplate [LOCKER]

ITEMS
Holy Symbol of Gorum (wood) - (Adventuring Gear, 1 gp)
Spell Pouch - 2 lbs (Adventuring Gear, 5 gp)
Sack - .5 lb (Adventuring Gear, 1 sp)
Inkpen - (Adventuring Gear, 1 sp)
Ink, 1 oz vial, (Adventuring Gear, 8 gp)
Paper, 20 sheets (Adventuring Gear, 8 gp)
Healer's Kit - 1 lb (Adventuring Gear, 50 gp)
x2 Pearls of Power, 1st lvl (Minor Wondrous Item, 1000 gp)
1 Potion of Cure Serious Wounds - .1 lb
1 Scroll of Cure Light Wounds
Wand of Cure Serious Wounds (x3 charges)
Scroll of Sanctuary - .5 lb (Potions & Scrolls, 25 gp)
Feather Token, Swan Boat - (Minor Wondrous Item, 450 gp)
Universal Solvent - (Minor Wondrous Item, 50 gp)
Wand of Silence
Wand of Summon Monster II

148 gp

CARRYING CAPACITY
LIGHT LOAD - 66 lbs or less
MEDIUM LOAD - 67-133 lbs
HEAVY LOAD - 134-200 lbs

Current load - ??

I changed Brion's alignment. He was chaotic neutral, but I've been playing him (and thinking of him) closer towards true neutral. I think the responsibilities that come with a higher rank have tempered him a bit.

I was also unsure whether or not I've earned any income since I last leveled up. How many days did we spend at level 6 before leaving on this mission? Was it one or none?

[michael]

Also, I noticed that you labeled which items were in the weapons locker back at camp. Thanks for doing that, but I thought you wound up taking a lot of those items with you? At the start of the previous chapter, everyone did strip down in case the horses became fatigued in the Rift, but when a new route was selected that went outside of the Rift, I thought most equipment was taken?

When we originally decided to go into the rift, I was 1 pound over the horse's light load with just myself, my armor, my sword, my spell pouch, and a saddle.

I think at one point, I remarked something like "Now I can take everything," but I was referring to all the little things like scrolls, wands, and potions. I still left the excess armor and weapons. However, I did take my crossbow, which I mistakenly marked as being in my locker.

And where did he get the +1 breastplate? Was it taken off the "wise one"? It wasn't listed as part of his level 6 equipment, so if he did pick it up in the previous chapter, Brion has to have it with him if he wants to keep it.

During the siege of Verdas, there was a dwarf cleric we captured. I got the breastplate off of him. I was also given 5 scrolls of dispell magic for that session, and I still have three. Those were also left off my online character sheet, so I added them.

The update looks mostly good. Although, I only see 1 skill rank added at this level, and he should get 3 (2 Clr +1 human). Or am I missing something?

Well, Ride is cross-class, so that took up 2 points, but I think I've forgotten to add the extra skill point for being human a few times. I added up all of my ranks in every skill, and it came to 19. If you subtract the 2 points I awarded from favored class, it's 17. A 7th level human cleric with +0 INT should have 21, which means I've missed out on 4 skill points. You should definitely double check that, though.

Anyway, figure out his current load only based on the items that he is currently carrying.

Sorry, I put in the question marks as a placeholder until I added it up, then forgot to go back to it. I'm at 77.1 lbs.

[reefwood]

Jun 8, 2010 16:02:08 GMT -5 michael said:

Also, I noticed that you labeled which items were in the weapons locker back at camp. Thanks for doing that, but I thought you wound up taking a lot of those items with you? At the start of the previous chapter, everyone did strip down in case the horses became fatigued in the Rift, but when a new route was selected that went outside of the Rift, I thought most equipment was taken?

When we originally decided to go into the rift, I was 1 pound over the horse's light load with just myself, my armor, my sword, my spell pouch, and a saddle.

I think at one point, I remarked something like "Now I can take everything," but I was referring to all the little things like scrolls, wands, and potions. I still left the excess armor and weapons. However, I did take my crossbow, which I mistakenly marked as being in my locker.

Okay, that makes sense. And yeah, I thought Brion had a crossbow with him right now but wasn't sure if I was confusing that with Sahme cos I know he has one too.

During the siege of Verdas, there was a dwarf cleric we captured. I got the breastplate off of him. I was also given 5 scrolls of dispell magic for that session, and I still have three. Those were also left off my online character sheet, so I added them.

I thought that might have been where the armor came from but then wasn't sure because it wasn't on the level 6 sheet. Plus, I didn't have a chance to check my records to see which NPCs even had that kind of armor. I wonder if anyone took the "wise one" armor? If not, the older Shaw would be using it right now because there just happened to be 9 Red Blade survivors and 9 armored orcs in that cave, so just enough for everyone.

Well, Ride is cross-class, so that took up 2 points, but I think I've forgotten to add the extra skill point for being human a few times. I added up all of my ranks in every skill, and it came to 19. If you subtract the 2 points I awarded from favored class, it's 17. A 7th level human cleric with +0 INT should have 21, which means I've missed out on 4 skill points. You should definitely double check that, though.

All skill ranks in Pathfinder cost the same amount, whether they are class skills or cross-class skills. The difference is that class skills also get the +3 training bonus once you put 1 skill rank in them.

I actually think I added up all of Brion's skill ranks when I looked at his 5th-level sheet, and they totalled the correct amount, but I might have forgotten about the +1 skill ranks human bonus at each level. All of Brion's character sheets should be in this thread, so if you want to look back at them and see if there was an error, it should be easy enough to figure out with a little math. I'm not sure if I'll have time to do this today. At the very least, you should add 2 more skill ranks for 7th level and place them wherever you'd like. And if there turn out to be missing skill ranks from the past, I'd prefer if those were placed in skills that Brion had before 7th level rather than just dumping them all into new skills now since that's not how it would have originally played out.

EDIT: See the next post for the skill rank break down and corrections.

[reefwood]

Brion Skills

I decided to get ambitious and figure this out real quick. Brion is missing skill ranks. I will give you two options for placing the skill ranks left out of prior levels:

1) Insert the skill ranks into any class skills.

2) Insert the skill ranks into cross-class skills that Brion already possess at the time.

For example, Brion may place his 1 skill rank missing from Lvl5 into Knowledge(religion) because it is a class skill, or Survival because he already possesses ranks in this cross-class skill, but not Ride because it is a cross-class skill that he doesn't have ranks in yet.

And Lvl7 skill ranks may be placed in any skill.

---

Lvl3 - SKILLS (+1 point from favored class)
Intimidate 8 = 1 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 3 (CHA mod) + 1 (competance)
Survival 9 = 1 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 4 (WIS mod) + 1 (competance)
Sense Motive 8 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod)
Diplomacy 7 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 3 (CHA mod)
Profession (Military) 8 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mos)
Heal 10 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod) + 2 Healer's Kit
Linguistics 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (History) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (Arcana) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Spellcraft 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
TOTAL = 10 skill ranks
Math: (2 Clr +1 human) x3 = 9 +1 fc = 10
*Everything is correct at this level.

Lvl5 - SKILLS (+1 point from favored class)
Intimidate 11 = 3 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 3 (CHA mod) + 2 (competance)
Survival 10 = 1 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 4 (WIS mod) + 2 (competance)
Sense Motive 10 = 3 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod)
Diplomacy 7 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 3 (CHA mod)
Profession (Military) 8 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mos)
Heal 10 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod) + 2 Healer's Kit
Linguistics 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (History) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (Arcana) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Spellcraft 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
TOTAL = 14 skill ranks
Math: (2 Clr +1 human) x5 = 15 +1 fc = 16
*Looks like 2 skill points were left out at this level. Probly the +1 human ones.


Lvl6 - SKILLS (+2 point from favored class)
Intimidate 12 = 3 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 3 (CHA mod) + 3 (competance)
Survival 11 = 1 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 4 (WIS mod) + 3 (competance)
Sense Motive 10 = 3 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod)
Diplomacy 7 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 3 (CHA mod)
Profession (Military) 11 = 4 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mos)
Heal 10 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod) + 2 Healer's Kit
Linguistics 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (History) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (Arcana) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Spellcraft 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
TOTAL = 17 skill ranks
Math: (2 Clr +1 human) x6 = 18 +2 fc = 20
*The difference at this level goes from 2 to 3, so it looks like 1 skill rank was left out at this level, and again, it was probly the +1 human one.



Lvl7 - SKILLS (+2 point from favored class)
Intimidate 12 = 3 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 3 (CHA mod) + 3 (competance)
Survival 11 = 1 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 4 (WIS mod) + 3 (competance)
Sense Motive 10 = 3 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod)
Diplomacy 7 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 3 (CHA mod)
Profession (Military) 11 = 4 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mos)
Heal 10 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod) + 2 Healer's Kit
Linguistics 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (History) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (Arcana) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Spellcraft 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Ride 0 = 1 (rank) + 3 (skill focus) + 1 (DEX mod) - 5 (AC Penalty)
TOTAL = 18 skill ranks
Math: (2 Clr +1 human) x7 = 21 +2 fc = 23
*The diffence here increases from 3 to 5, so 2 skill ranks were left out of this level. The +1 human one and 1 extra put into Ride (which just needed 1, not 2).

[michael]

Ok, it's all fixed. I put the 7th level points into ride, and the others into Prof (Military) and Intimidate.

[Rabbit]

Dragon Bite (Ex): At 2nd level, whenever the dragon disciple uses his bloodline to grow claws, he also gains a bite attack. This natural attack is made at the dragon disciple's full base attack bonus. The dragon disciple adds 1–1/2 times his Strength modifier on damage rolls made with his bite. Upon reaching 6th level, this bite also deals 1d6 points of energy damage. The type of damage dealt is determined by the dragon disciple's bloodline.

question on the damage for the bite. If "1–1/2 times his Strength modifier on damage rolls" with a Str 19(+5) would the damage be 2.5 rounded down to 2?



[edit:] also, my claws are considered magic for damage reduction. is my bite?

[2nd edit:]

Power Attack (Combat)
You can make exceptionally deadly melee attacks by sacrificing accuracy for strength.

Prerequisites: Str 13, base attack bonus +1.

Benefit: You can choose to take a –1 penalty on all melee attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain a +2 bonus on all melee damage rolls. This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon, a one handed weapon using two hands, or a primary natural weapon that adds 1-1/2 times your Strength modifier on damage rolls. This bonus to damage is halved (–50%) if you are making an attack with an off-hand weapon or secondary natural weapon. When your base attack bonus reaches +4, and every 4 points thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the bonus to damage increases by +2. You must choose to use this feat before making an attack roll, and its effects last until your next turn. The bonus damage does not apply to touch attacks or effects that do not deal hit point damage.

and if i read this correctly taking power attack will grant the bite attack a (+50%).

the bite attack recieves the full attack bonus to i would think it does count as a 'primary' natural.

[reefwood]

Jun 9, 2010 12:58:20 GMT -5 Rabbit said:

Dragon Bite (Ex): At 2nd level, whenever the dragon disciple uses his bloodline to grow claws, he also gains a bite attack. This natural attack is made at the dragon disciple's full base attack bonus. The dragon disciple adds 1–1/2 times his Strength modifier on damage rolls made with his bite. Upon reaching 6th level, this bite also deals 1d6 points of energy damage. The type of damage dealt is determined by the dragon disciple's bloodline.

question on the damage for the bite. If "1–1/2 times his Strength modifier on damage rolls" with a Str 19(+5) would the damage be 2.5 rounded down to 2?

YES. These kind of things (and just about everything in D&D/Pathfinder, unless it explicitly says otherwise) always round down.

[edit:] also, my claws are considered magic for damage reduction. is my bite?

YES. The bite sounds like an expansion of the claws, so I think it is safe to assume they work the same in all ways except for details specifically noted...such as the difference in Str mod damage.

[2nd edit:]

Power Attack (Combat)
You can make exceptionally deadly melee attacks by sacrificing accuracy for strength.

Prerequisites: Str 13, base attack bonus +1.

Benefit: You can choose to take a –1 penalty on all melee attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain a +2 bonus on all melee damage rolls. This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon, a one handed weapon using two hands, or a primary natural weapon that adds 1-1/2 times your Strength modifier on damage rolls. This bonus to damage is halved (–50%) if you are making an attack with an off-hand weapon or secondary natural weapon. When your base attack bonus reaches +4, and every 4 points thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the bonus to damage increases by +2. You must choose to use this feat before making an attack roll, and its effects last until your next turn. The bonus damage does not apply to touch attacks or effects that do not deal hit point damage.

and if i read this correctly taking power attack will grant the bite attack a (+50%).

the bite attack recieves the full attack bonus to i would think it does count as a 'primary' natural.

YES. I think this may be a quirk/bonus that is tied into dragons in general. Because usually having multiple natural weapons (even if they are the same, such as 2 claws) means you only add Str mod to damage, but since this bite is a primary natural weapon that gets 1-1/2 times Str mod on damage, then it makes sense that it also gets the appropriate extra bonus to power attack damage.

[reefwood]

Sahme - Levels

Sahme is going to be a Sorcerer 6 and Dragon Disciple 2. Some things overlap and some don't, so I think he winds up a few different totals when determining his level for various abilities:

Character - level 8
Draconic Bloodline - level 8
Spellcaster - level 7
Sorcerer - level 6
Dragon Disciple - level 2

Does all that seem to add up right? So, fireball damage would now be 7d6+7 fire damage, yes? The 7d6 from being a 7th-level caster, and the +7 from bloodline arcana of a red dragon that provides +1 damage per damage die rolled of fire damage spells.

And I believe scorching ray should now create 2 rays that each do 4d6+4 fire damage. It looks like we had been doing this wrong before and basing the extra damage on caster level instead of the amount of damage die rolled.

[Rabbit]

Jun 10, 2010 16:50:22 GMT -5 reefwood said:

Sahme - Levels

Sahme is going to be a Sorcerer 6 and Dragon Disciple 2. Some things overlap and some don't, so I think he winds up a few different totals when determining his level for various abilities:

Character - level 8
Draconic Bloodline - level 8
Spellcaster - level 7
Sorcerer - level 6
Dragon Disciple - level 2

Does all that seem to add up right? So, fireball damage would now be 7d6+7 fire damage, yes? The 7d6 from being a 7th-level caster, and the +7 from bloodline arcana of a red dragon that provides +1 damage per damage die rolled of fire damage spells.

And I believe scorching ray should now create 2 rays that each do 4d6+4 fire damage. It looks like we had been doing this wrong before and basing the extra damage on caster level instead of the amount of damage die rolled.

All that looks right to me. I noticed that I had been adding the 'bloodline arcana' damage wrong as well. I think I was mixed up because the fireball damage bonus just happened to be the same as my caster level (+6). Should be straight now.

One other feature I wanted to check with is the "Bonus Spells" for Sorcerers. Does Dragon Disciple count when determining access to these spells, and should I count each Dragon Disciple level or just the Dragon Disciple levels that increase my caster level?