Boot Camp (character creation)

[reefwood]

Going to handle corrections and notes one creature at a time.

Dec 10, 2009 13:05:15 GMT -5 icnivad said:

Sir Grolton, 1st Cavalry
(new features in red)
Human Cavalry
L2 Druid
L1 Fighter

Health:
HP: 30/30 (22 class +6 con +2 preferred class)

Stats
Str: 20, +5 (18 +2 item)
Dex: 12, +1
Con: 14, +2
Int: 12, +1
Wis: 16, +3
Cha: 9, -1

Sir Grolton needs a weight. Give him one that makes sense. I weigh ~140 lbs and am pretty weak. He is very strong.

Saves:
Fort: +6 (4 class +2 con)
Reflex: +1 (0 class +1 dex)
Will: +5 (2 class + 3 wis)

Fortitude should be +1 higher because a Drd2 has a bonus of +3 and Ftr1 has +2, so +2 Con gives a total of +7.

Defense:
AC: 16 (armor: +4, dex +1, natural (item) +1)

Please list your flat-footed (15) and touch (11) AC for easy reference.

Offense:
Lance, magic +1, Merciful(+1d6, all damage is nonlethal):
Lance (1 handed): +9 (1d8+1d6+6)
Lance (2 handed): +9 (1d8+1d6+8)
Lance Charge (2 handed): +11 (3*(1d8+1d6) + 24)
Power Attack Lance (2 handed): +8 (1d8+1d6+11)
Power Attack Lance Charge (2 handed): +10 (3*(1d8+1d6)+33)

Didn't pay attention to how you were rolling during the session, but when damage is multiplied, multiple dice are rolled as opposed to multiplying a single damage roll, so charging attacks should list weapon damage as 3d8+3d6.

Also, the merciful entry states that "On command, the weapon suppresses this ability until told to resume it (allowing it to deal lethal damage, but without any bonus damage from this ability)." To me this means a command word, and "activating a command word magic item is a standard action and does not provoke attacks of opportunity." So if you ever want to deal lethal damage, it takes a standard action to switch it over and another one to resume nonlethal damage.

Skills:
Handle Animal: +4/+8 (3+2 ranks-1 cha +4 companion)
Intimidate: +3 (3+1 rank-1 cha)
Know(geo): +5 (3+1 ranks+1 int)
know(nature): +8 (3+2 ranks+1 int +2 nature sense)
Perception: +8 (3+2 ranks+3 wis)
Profession (Military): +10.5 (3+3 ranks+3 wis+1.5 mil)
Ride: +11.5* (3+3 ranks+1 dex +1.5 military skill + 3 skill focus)
Survival: +11 (3+2 ranks+3 wis + 2 nature sense)
* subject to armor check

I assume you are simply listed the half ranks in Prof and Ride as a reminder to bump them up at your next level, but remember that these numbers round down, so Prof rolls are only +10 and Ride +11... except the Hide armor gives a -3 armor check penalty, so it is Ride +8. Did you use the correct modifier during the combat?

And Survival adds up to +10, not +11, now that it is no longer a military skill.

Class Traits:
Nature Bond
Nature Sense
Wild Empathy

Please list your Wild Empathy (Drd2 -1 Cha = +1) for easy reference.

Feats:
L1: Mounted Combat
Hum: Ride-By Attack
Mil: Skill Focus (Ride)
Mil: Power Attack
L3: Spirited Charge
F1: Weapon Focus (Lance)

Looks good, and as a reminder, the F1 feat can be swapped out if you ever make it to Ftr4.

Items:
Weight: 66 lbs
Lance +1, Merciful
Short Spear (9x)
MW Longsword
Hide Armor
Wand: Summon Nature's Ally (24x)
Scrolls: Obscuring Mist (3x)
Scrolls: Cure Light Wounds (3x)
Potion: Mage Armor
Potion: Cure Light Wounds
Potion: Cure Moderate Wounds
Credit: 3rd level potion (unchosed)
Medal of Valor
Ring of +2 Str
Credit: one +1 enchantment to armor or shield or bracers of armor +1 (unchosen)

Look good here too, but also note your loads (76 lbs or less / 77–153 lbs / 154–230 lbs ...oops! Mistakenly listed the load for Str 16. Str 20 is 133 lbs or less / 134–266 lbs / 267–400 lbs). Sir G is currently at a light load. A medium load would not affect his armor check penalty since it is the same as Hide armor (-3), but a heavy load would impose a –6 armor check penalty.

Spells:
L1:
Cure Light Wounds (2x)
Engangle

So he didn't cast any spells in the last session?

And add his income pool.

[icnivad]

Dec 10, 2009 14:15:03 GMT -5 reefwood said:

Sir Grolton needs a weight. Give him one that makes sense. I weigh ~140 lbs and am pretty weak. He is very strong.

I listed him at 150 in his mount's carrying capacity section. If you think this is too light, I could bump it to 160

Fortitude should be +1 higher because a Drd2 has a bonus of +3 and Ftr1 has +2, so +2 Con gives a total of +7.

Please list your flat-footed (15) and touch (11) AC for easy reference.

Ok, I'll make the appropriate changes

Didn't pay attention to how you were rolling during the session, but when damage is multiplied, multiple dice are rolled as opposed to multiplying a single damage roll, so charging attacks should list weapon damage as 3d8+3d6.

I was rolling each die once and multiplying as I thought that was how it works since it says "multiply the damage". I'm fine either way, but if I have to roll 6 die(9 if I get another enchantment) the math is going to bog me down quite a bit.

Good to know about the merciful thing.

I was rounding down on any .5 skills. Just listed it to be complete.

So he didn't cast any spells in the last session?

Sir grolton did not cast any spells, but sir james' spell list reflects only what he has left.

[reefwood]

Dec 10, 2009 15:12:20 GMT -5 icnivad said:

Dec 10, 2009 14:15:03 GMT -5 reefwood said:

Sir Grolton needs a weight. Give him one that makes sense. I weigh ~140 lbs and am pretty weak. He is very strong.

I listed him at 150 in his mount's carrying capacity section. If you think this is too light, I could bump it to 160

150 seems way too light. I was going to say at least 175. Again, I'm just trying to base it off what seems realistic, and when I am in a better shape that has me stronger, I tend to weigh a bit more, even if I look leaner. Of course, there are rules for rolling random height & weight, and I'm willing to find a middle ground.

Based on random height/weight generation, someone who weighs 160 lbs is 5'6". I take this to be for an average person. Being really strong, I'd say he can be 160 lbs if he is 5'2". If you want him to be 150 lbs, he will be a very short 5' even. Normally, humans can't be any shorter than this.

Didn't pay attention to how you were rolling during the session, but when damage is multiplied, multiple dice are rolled as opposed to multiplying a single damage roll, so charging attacks should list weapon damage as 3d8+3d6.

I was rolling each die once and multiplying as I thought that was how it works since it says "multiply the damage". I'm fine either way, but if I have to roll 6 die(9 if I get another enchantment) the math is going to bog me down quite a bit.

Good to know about the merciful thing.

I was rounding down on any .5 skills. Just listed it to be complete.

Yep, that's how it goes for the damage dice. It does say "multiply the damage" or something along those lines, but then goes onto explain how that is done. No worries about it this time. I figured there would be slip ups by everyone, myself included, because we are using a similar but different system.

In general, it would be best for everyone to read through the entire entry of anything that applies to their character. Not only to be sure it is done correctly, but I think it will also be a good way to make sure people realize when things work different Pathfinder.

So he didn't cast any spells in the last session?

Sir grolton did not cast any spells, but sir james' spell list reflects only what he has left.

Okay, just wanted to make sure. I thought I heard you talking about casting a spell when Grolton was down but didn't remember if that was actually what happened.

[michael]

Sir grolton did not cast any spells, but sir james' spell list reflects only what he has left.

Okay, just wanted to make sure. I thought I heard you talking about casting a spell when Grolton was down but didn't remember if that was actually what happened.

Didn't Grolton summon that Sturge?

[icnivad]

Dec 10, 2009 15:51:19 GMT -5 reefwood said:

150 seems way too light. I was going to say at least 175. Again, I'm just trying to base it off what seems realistic, and when I am in a better shape that has me stronger, I tend to weigh a bit more, even if I look leaner. Of course, there are rules for rolling random height & weight, and I'm willing to find a middle ground.

Based on random height/weight generation, someone who weighs 160 lbs is 5'6". I take this to be for an average person. Being really strong, I'd say he can be 160 lbs if he is 5'2". If you want him to be 150 lbs, he will be a very short 5' even. Normally, humans can't be any shorter than this.

That seems pretty short. I'm 5'7, and I weigh 140 lbs and consider myself in fairly good shape and when I'm working out more, I actually tend to lose a couple lbs in loss of fat. People also tended to be quite a bit shorter back then, so I assumed he wouldn't be 6'2, as is normal for a modern large person, but would tend more toward my size but maybe a little bulkier. Looking up the weight of weight lifters, though, I see that Arnold Schwarzenegger weighed around 220 during his prime, but he's almost 6'2" and is build a bit more like a barbarian, than a knight.

Yep, that's how it goes for the damage dice. It does say "multiply the damage" or something along those lines, but then goes onto explain how that is done. No worries about it this time. I figured there would be slip ups by everyone, myself included, because we are using a similar but different system.

all I see under charge is "A lance deals double damage if employed by a mounted character in a charge." or under Spirited Charge, "When mounted and using the charge action, you deal double damage with a melee weapon (or triple damage with a lance)." As far as I can find, it doesn't go into any more detail. If you know of a place where it talks about this more, I'd love to read it.

Okay, just wanted to make sure. I thought I heard you talking about casting a spell when Grolton was down but didn't remember if that was actually what happened.

He used a wand when he was down to summon the stirge so he wouldn't provoke an attack of opportunity, and I depleted his wand by 1. He was thinking of casting the spell next round, but ended up lancing instead.

[icnivad]

It looks like if Arnold was 5'8" and kept his build he would weigh 194lbs:
//convert 3d to 2d
square ( cu root(220lbs) ) = 36.44
//scale appropriately, 68=5'8", 74 = 6'2"
36.44*68"/74" = 33.49
//convert 2d to 3d
cube (sq root(33.49)) = 193.79 lbs

If Arnie was 1" tall, he would weigh .35 lbs. If he was 10' tall he would weigh 454 lbs. If he was 100 ft tall he would weigh 14366 lbs and be seen smashing Tokyo.

I'm not sure that any of this helps my point, but I thought it was interesting. Since Sir Grolton is a night, and not a barbarian like Conan, 194 seems quite a bit big, so yeah, maybe 170 is appropriate.

[icnivad]

Although, Brad Pitt in Fight Club weighed between 155 and 160


In Troy, he bulked up to 170-180.


All of this is at 5'11.5" and I could easily see him swinging a lance in either movie.

[reefwood]

Dec 10, 2009 16:26:04 GMT -5 icnivad said:

Dec 10, 2009 15:51:19 GMT -5 reefwood said:

Based on random height/weight generation, someone who weighs 160 lbs is 5'6". I take this to be for an average person. Being really strong, I'd say he can be 160 lbs if he is 5'2". If you want him to be 150 lbs, he will be a very short 5' even. Normally, humans can't be any shorter than this.

That seems pretty short. I'm 5'7, and I weigh 140 lbs and consider myself in fairly good shape and when I'm working out more, I actually tend to lose a couple lbs in loss of fat. People also tended to be quite a bit shorter back then, so I assumed he wouldn't be 6'2, as is normal for a modern large person, but would tend more toward my size but maybe a little bulkier. Looking up the weight of weight lifters, though, I see that Arnold Schwarzenegger weighed around 220 during his prime, but he's almost 6'2" and is build a bit more like a barbarian, than a knight.

Those are your options. I am imposing DM discretion based off the stated rules. I'm sure there are people out there of all kinds of heights that vary in weight and strength. There would probably be pings all over the board on a chart about this sort of thing, but I'm going with how it probably works most often, and if you're worried about the load on your horse, it doesn't look like it will ever be at a light load anyway (see below).

With all the climbing you do, I know you're pretty strong, but I'm guessing you are not Str 18. Also, we are not playing in the past. We're in an alternate universe. Just so you know

all I see under charge is "A lance deals double damage if employed by a mounted character in a charge." or under Spirited Charge, "When mounted and using the charge action, you deal double damage with a melee weapon (or triple damage with a lance)." As far as I can find, it doesn't go into any more detail. If you know of a place where it talks about this more, I'd love to read it.

D&D is notorious for having a rule that is made up of several rules located in other places. I believe I quoted this section in reply to a prior question, and you can read up on Multiplying Damage in the Combat section, but this is the line explaining it, "Roll the damage (with all modifiers) multiple times and total the results."

Okay, just wanted to make sure. I thought I heard you talking about casting a spell when Grolton was down but didn't remember if that was actually what happened.

He used a wand when he was down to summon the stirge so he wouldn't provoke an attack of opportunity, and I depleted his wand by 1. He was thinking of casting the spell next round, but ended up lancing instead.

I am going to read up on the Stirge for the next session. I don't have any reason to think it was handled incorrectly. I just want to go over it better since my mind was a bit overloaded already when that came up.

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Animal companion is looking good except for things related to equipment.

Dec 10, 2009 13:05:15 GMT -5 icnivad said:

Loyal Steed

3 HD Horse

Health:
HP: 23/23 (17 class +6 con)

Stats
Str: 16, +3
Dex: 13, +1
Con: 15, +2
Int: 2, -4
Wis: 12, +1
Cha: 6, -2

Saves:
Fort: +5 (3 class +2 con)
Reflex: +4 (3 class +1 dex)
Will: +2 (1 class + 1 wis)

Defense:
AC: 17 (armor: +3, dex +1, natural +4, size -1)

Flat-footed 16, touch 10.

Offense:
1 Bite +4 (1d6+3), 2 hooves -1 (1d4+1)
Charging Bite +6 (1d6+3)
Overrun +8 (2 BAB +3 Str +2 feat + 1 size)
Charging Overrun +10 (2 BAB +3 Str +2 feat + 1 size +2 charge)

Tricks:
Attack 2
Come
Defend
Down
Guard
Heel

Skills:
Acrobatics: 5 (3+1+1dex)
Perception: 6 (3+2+1wis)

-1 to Acrobatics because of armor check penalty for a total of +4.

Class Traits:
Link
Share Spells

Feats:
Power Attack
Improved Overrun

Items:
Wt: 40+150(rider)+66(rider's gear) = 256 (the shortspears put him at med capacity, he was at light capacity the last game)
Capacity: lt 230, md 460, mx 690
Studded Leather
Rider

Missing some minor and vital information here:

1) Carrying capacity for a large quadruped is x3, so I get 228 / 459 / 690. It's a minimal difference, but loads for medium humanoids aren't rounded up, so I see no need to it for other creatures. Plus, if anything, numbers in D&D round down.

3) "If you are riding bareback, you take a –5 penalty on Ride checks." You need a saddle to avoid this penalty. Be sure to add this to load and deduct the cost from your income pool.
Military - 20 gp - 30 lbs
Riding - 10 gp - 25 lbs

4) With minimum equipment, I get the following:
150 Rider +10 Lance +25 Hide +30 40 Studded Leather +25 Saddle = 240 lbs (medium load)

This horse should have been at medium load in the last session. Again, what's done and done. Plus, the battle turned out to be harder than I expected, and I figured corrections would be needed afterward.

[reefwood]

Dec 10, 2009 16:45:58 GMT -5 icnivad said:

It looks like if Arnold was 5'8" and kept his build he would weigh 194lbs:
//convert 3d to 2d
square ( cu root(220lbs) ) = 36.44
//scale appropriately, 68=5'8", 74 = 6'2"
36.44*68"/74" = 33.49
//convert 2d to 3d
cube (sq root(33.49)) = 193.79 lbs

If Arnie was 1" tall, he would weigh .35 lbs. If he was 10' tall he would weigh 454 lbs. If he was 100 ft tall he would weigh 14366 lbs and be seen smashing Tokyo.

I'm not sure that any of this helps my point, but I thought it was interesting. Since Sir Grolton is a night, and not a barbarian like Conan, 194 seems quite a bit big, so yeah, maybe 170 is appropriate.

Whoa, that was a lot of math. Mine was based off the simple bonus/penalty rule that is in the DMG. If something has an effect, make it +2 or -2. Basically, you count as +2" higher in the height/weight chart if you are strong and +4" if you are very strong.

[icnivad]

haha. Yeah, I was mostly having fun with calculations(I go a little stir crazy programming all day sometimes). Lets make him Brad Pitt in Troy at 170 lbs at 5'11.5", long blond hair, blue eyes.

I'll go over and fix the stuff later, my character sheet calculated the carrying capacity, but I think it was based on 3.5, so I'll adjust. or maybe there's a flaw in my formula

[reefwood]

Focusing on PCs first...

Dec 10, 2009 13:53:50 GMT -5 Rabbit said:

Updated/in the moment character sheets. Anything that is changed is red.

Dec 7, 2009 15:12:03 GMT -5 Rabbit said:

Sermon Rank Sergent
Warforged - Infantry Buster
Alignment: LN
Fighter L3 (Favored Class)
Height: 6’ Weight: 332 lbs
HP: 41 [3d10+Con] 13,13,9 [+3 FC] [+3 toughness] 18
•Damage Reduction 3/ adamantine
AC: 19/23 [18 flat, 11 touch] [Tower Shield +4]
BAB:3 [Str:+1] [+1 (Scythe)]
5 Sythe (masterwork +1) 2d4+1, ×4
4 Flail 1d8+1, ×2
5 Crossbow, heavy (masterwork +1) 1d10+1, 19–20/×2 [120 ft.]

You have shortchanged your main attack:

Scythe: +3 BAB +1 Str +1 masterwork +1 feat = +6

Power Attack in Action
4 Sythe (masterwork +1) 2d4+4, ×4
3 Flail 1d8+3, x2 (one handed) (+1 dmg if two handed)
AC: 17/21

Power attack does not affect AC. It only affects attack and damage. Scythe is +5.

Cleave in Action
AC: 16/21

Cleave AC is 17/23 [16 flat, 9 touch].

Initiative:+1
Speed: 20’

Fort: 6 Ref: 2 Will: 0 [+1 against fear saves]

STATS
STR 13 (+1)
DEX 13 (+1)
CON 17 (+3)
INT 14 (+2)
WIS 9 (-1)
CHR 2 (-4)

SKILL POINTS 12 [(2+2=4)*3]
* = Military Skill, [AbMod+Rank+CS+Military-ACP] [-9 with Tower Shield]
-3 Climb (Str) [1+0+na+na-4]
9 *Craft (Armor Smithy) (Int) [2+3+3+1+na]
NA Handle Animal (Cha)
-4 Intimidate (Cha) [-4+0+na+na+na]
8 Knowledge (dungeoneering) (Int) [2+3+3+na+na]
8 Knowledge (engineering) (Int) [2+3+3+na+na]
6 *Profession (Wis) (Military) [-1+3+3+1+na]
-3 Ride (Dex) [1+0+na+na-4]
-1 Survival (Wis) [-1+0+na+na+na]
-3 Swim (Str) [1+0+na+na-4]

FEATS
Lvl 1; Adamantine Body: +8 Armor bonus to AC. Max Dexterity bonus to AC is +1. –5 Armor check penalty. 35% Arcane Spell Failure chance. Damage Reduction 2/adamantine Base Speed is 20’
Fhtr 1; Weapon Focus (Scythe)
Miltary; Toughness
Military; Power Attack
Fhtr 2; Cleave
Lvl 3; Damage Reduction 1

CLASS ABILITIES
Bravery +1: bonus on Will saves against fear.
Armor training -1: reduces the armor check penalty (to a minimum of 0) and increases the maximum Dexterity bonus allowed by his armor by 1.

ITEMS/EQUIPMENT
Income
210 gold=21*[10 days of daily income pool]
15 [3CL*5]+ 6 [Profession (military)]= 21 [daily income pool]

Standard Combat
- Masterwork melee weapon (400 gp)
Scythe (masterwork) 2d4×4 10 lbs. (P or S) trip. 318 gp
- Masterwork ranged weapon (600 gp)
Crossbow, heavy (masterwork) 1d10 19–20/×2 [120 ft.] 8 lbs (P). 350 gp
- Masterwork armor (600 gp)
none
- Masterwork shield (400 gp)
Tower Shield (masterwork) +4 AC [MaxDex+2] [ACP–9] [50%ASF]. 45 lbs. 180gp
- Nonmagical ammunition, weapons, armor, shields (500 gp)
Flail 1d8×2 5 lbs. (B) disarm, trip. 8 gp
Bolts(9) 1 lb. 1 gp
- Adventuring gear, special substances, tools & skill kits, mounts (300)
Repair Kit Healer's Kit: (8) 1lb. 50 gp
Caltrops: 1 2lbs. 1gp
Ram, Portable: 10lbs. 10 gp
Alchemist's Fire: 1d6/1d6 20 gp
Acid: 1d6 10gp
Sunrod: 30ft/6hours 2gp
Holy Symbol of Urgathoa (wood):1gp
- Magic items (200 gp) and bonus potion
Enlarge Person 50gp
Hide From Undead 50gp
Repair Light Damage 50gp
Potion of repair moderate damage (300 gp)
Repair Light Damage. 50gp

-Spoils of War (to be added to weight and details listed)
Longspear (masterwork)
Spear

Carry Capacity: L-[50 lbs or less], M-[51-100 lbs], H-[101-150lbs]
Load 82lbs = M
Total Weight = 414 [332+82]

The rest looks good!

[michael]

Brion Shaw, lvl 3 Human Cleric of Gorum
Chaotic Neutral
6'4'', 218 lbs

WIS - 18 - +4
CHA - 16 - +3
STR - 15 - +2
CON - 15 - +2
DEX - 12 - +1
INT - 10 - 0

FORT - 5, REF - 2, WILL - 7
BAB - 2 [+2 STR] [+1 Greatsword] = 5
CM - 4 [2 STR + 2 BA]
HP - 23 + 6 (toughness) +2 (favored class) = 31/29 currently
AC - 18 [11 touch, 17 flat-footed]

SKILLS (+1 point from favored class)
Intimidate 7 = 1 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 3 (CHA mod)
Survival 8 = 1 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 4 (WIS mod)
Sense Motive 8 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod)
Diplomacy 7 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 3 (CHA mod)
Profession (Military) 8 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mos)
Heal 8 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod)
Linguistics 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (History) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (Arcana) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Spellcraft 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)

FEATS
Armor proficiency (heavy) - Military Feat
Toughness - Military Feat
Selective Channeling
Extra Channeling
Power Attack

DOMAINS
Glory
--Touch of Glory: +3 on CHA check [7 uses per day] (One consumed)
--Shield of Faith [lvl 1 spell] (Uncast)
--Magic Weapon [lvl 2 spell] (Uncast)
War
--Battle Rage: +1 ATK on touched creature [7 uses per day] (One consumed)
--Bless Weapon [lvl 1] (Uncast)
--Spirit Weapon [lvl 2] (Uncast)

EQUIPMENT
MW Greatsword
MW Longspear (Spoils)
MW Banded Mail
MW Tower Shield
MW Buckler (Spoils)

ITEMS
Holy Symbol of Gorum (wood)
Spell Pouch
Rope (hemp)
I will come back to this later to add more items.

BACKGROUND
Brion Shaw is the second of three sons borne to the great General Allistir Shaw. A powerful noble family with a strong military heritage, his service was a given since birth. Like both of his brothers, he was offered a command position straight out of the academy, in deference to his lineage, yet Brion declined. Preferring to earn his rank through actions rather than ancestry, he started as a grunt, serving beside conscripts and sell-swords as equals. His advancement still came quickly, though, as he proved himself a remarkably capable warrior and leader.

He's jovial, brave, friendly and well liked by almost everyone, yet merciless on the battlefield.

[icnivad]

I updated my character sheet.
I also dropped all of the attack types that I never use, and added shortspear and longsword. I can't remember if I did any charging on foot in the last session, but I think that I might have calculated it wrong. When not mounted on a horse, his charge is only x2 since he does not get the benefit of the spirited charge feat. I added his unmounted charge attack.

I also figured out what happened with the carrying capacity. It was a rounding error on my excel character sheet that only presents itself with four legged creatures where you take the max load, divide by 3, then multiply by 3 again, to get the light load (light load is always 1/3 max load, rounded down). What the formula was not doing was rounding down in between the two, but instead at the end.

[reefwood]

It looks like you may have overlooked my previous set of corrections, and there is one major error in here, but I expected mistakes and forgot to look over your abilities before we started. We'll do it right from here on out, and that's what matters.

Dec 10, 2009 22:38:15 GMT -5 michael said:

Brion Shaw, lvl 3 Human Cleric of Gorum
Chaotic Neutral
6'4'', 218 lbs

WIS - 18 - +4
CHA - 16 - +3
STR - 15 - +2
CON - 15 - +2
DEX - 12 - +1
INT - 10 - 0

FORT - 5, REF - 2, WILL - 7
BAB - 2 [+2 STR] [+1 Greatsword] = 5
CM - 4 [2 STR + 2 BA]
HP - 23 + 6 (toughness) +2 (favored class) = 31/29 currently
AC - 18 [11 touch, 17 flat-footed]

Toughness only provides +3 hp at 3rd level, so hp should be 28/26. And having that high Cha did prove very useful!

SKILLS (+1 point from favored class)
Intimidate 7 = 1 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 3 (CHA mod)
Survival 8 = 1 (rank) + 3 (military skill) + 4 (WIS mod)
Sense Motive 8 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod)
Diplomacy 7 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 3 (CHA mod)
Profession (Military) 8 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mos)
Heal 8 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (WIS mod)
Linguistics 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (History) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Knowledge (Arcana) 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)
Spellcraft 4 = 1 (rank) + 3 (class skill)

In addition to being treated as class skills, military skills also provide a competence bonus equal to half your level, so Intimidate and Survival should have a +1 competence bonus.

FEATS
Armor proficiency (heavy) - Military Feat
Toughness - Military Feat
Selective Channeling
Extra Channeling
Power Attack

Selective Channeling was used incorrectly during the combat. You cannot select who receives the burst. It does the opposite. You can only select who DOESN'T receive the burst, and even then, it is only a number of targets equal to Cha modifier, so Brion can select only up to 3 creatures that aren't healed, but every other creature in the burst is healed.

Also, please list somewhere the number of burst you have (8) and how many are currently left (1?) and the DC to halve damage from channeling (DC 14 / 16 undead... the +2 is from the Glory domain).

DOMAINS
Glory
--Touch of Glory: +3 on CHA check [7 uses per day] (One consumed)
--Shield of Faith [lvl 1 spell] (Uncast)
--Magic Weapon [lvl 2 spell] (Uncast)
War
--Battle Rage: +1 ATK on touched creature [7 uses per day] (One consumed)
--Bless Weapon [lvl 1] (Uncast)
--Spirit Weapon [lvl 2] (Uncast)

A few things here...

First off, your domain spells/levels are switched around. Glory provides 1st—shield of faith, 2nd—bless weapon. War provides 1st—magic weapon, 2nd—spiritual weapon.

Secondly, you can only prepare one domain spell per level, so shield of faith or magic weapon, and bless weapon or spiritual weapon, but not all four.

Thirdly, where is your list of regular spells? Did you use them all up? Even so, I would like you to list the number of spells you get per day (4, 3+1, 2+1), and the four Orisons you prepare can actually be cast at-will all day long.

Lastly, what time does Brion pray? Dawn?

Oh, and out of curiosity, who did you use the touch of glory and battle rage on during the combat?

EQUIPMENT
MW Greatsword
MW Longspear (Spoils)
MW Banded Mail
MW Tower Shield
MW Buckler (Spoils)

Please figure out the attack/damage stats for all your weapons, and list Power Attack options too. One thing to keep in mind is that you only have two-handed melee weapons, so you may want to take a ranged weapon and one-handed weapon from the spoils, and a shortspear is both.

ITEMS
Holy Symbol of Gorum (wood)
Spell Pouch
Rope (hemp)
I will come back to this later to add more items.

Sounds good, but I am going to veto the rope since it came up during the game that no one had rope, and it wound up being a desired item, so I am not going to let something sought after but missing suddenly appear.

[reefwood]

Dec 11, 2009 13:04:18 GMT -5 icnivad said:

I updated my character sheet.
I also dropped all of the attack types that I never use, and added shortspear and longsword. I can't remember if I did any charging on foot in the last session, but I think that I might have calculated it wrong. When not mounted on a horse, his charge is only x2 since he does not get the benefit of the spirited charge feat. I added his unmounted charge attack.

So no ranged attacks? That's fine since he isn't good at them anyway. As for the lance, the only time it does extra damage is while charging mounted. No extra damage for just charging or just being mounted.

"Lance: A lance deals double damage when used from the back of a charging mount. While mounted, you can wield a lance with one hand."

"Benefit: When mounted and using the charge action, you deal double damage with a melee weapon (or triple damage with a lance)."


Looking better but still a few things to take care of.

Dec 10, 2009 13:05:15 GMT -5 icnivad said:

Sir Grolton, 1st Cavalry

Human Cavalry
L2 Druid
L1 Fighter
5' 11.5", 170lbs
Blond hair, Blue eyes.

Health:
HP: 30/30 (22 class +6 con +2 preferred class)

Stats
Str: 20, +5 (18 +2 item)
Dex: 12, +1
Con: 14, +2
Int: 12, +1
Wis: 16, +3
Cha: 9, -1

Saves:
Fort: +7 (3+2 class +2 con)
Reflex: +1 (0+0 class +1 dex)
Will: +6 (3+0 class + 3 wis)

Defense:
AC: 16 (armor: +4, dex +1, natural (item) +1)
Flat: 15 (armor: +4, natural +1)
Touch: 11 (dex +1)

Offense:
Lance, magic +1, Merciful(+1d6, all damage is nonlethal):
Power Attack Lance (2 handed): +8 (1d8+1d6+11)
Power Attack Lance Charge (2 handed, mounted): +10 (3d8+3d6+33)
Power Attack Lance Charge (2 handed): +10 (2d8+2d6+22)
Longsword (2 handed): +8 (1d8+7)
Shortspear: +7 (1d6+5)

Power Attack Lance Charge (2 handed): +10 (1d8+1d6+11)

I mentioned it before the session but forgot to with the last set of corrections, but please calculate your CMB and CMD.

Skills:
Handle Animal: +4/+8 (3+2 ranks-1 cha +4 companion)
Intimidate: +3 (3+1 rank-1 cha)
Know(geo): +5 (3+1 ranks+1 int)
know(nature): +8 (3+2 ranks+1 int +2 nature sense)
Perception: +8 (3+2 ranks+3 wis)
Profession (Military): +10.5 (3+3 ranks+3 wis+1.5 mil)
Ride: +11.5* (3+3 ranks+1 dex +1.5 military skill + 3 skill focus)
Survival: +10 (3+2 ranks+3 wis + 2 nature sense)
* subject to armor check

Since Grolton is pretty much always going to be wearing armor, please include the ACP in the skill check, so Ride is +8.5.

Class Traits:
Nature Bond
Nature Sense
Wild Empathy (Drd2 -1 Cha = +1)

Feats:
L1: Mounted Combat
Hum: Ride-By Attack
Mil: Skill Focus (Ride)
Mil: Power Attack
L3: Spirited Charge
F1: Weapon Focus (Lance)

Items:
Weight: 66 lbs
Capacity: Lt 133, Med 266, Max 400
Income Pool: 3240 gp
Lance +1, Merciful
Short Spear (9x)
MW Longsword
Hide Armor
Wand: Summon Nature's Ally (24x)
Scrolls: Obscuring Mist (3x)
Scrolls: Cure Light Wounds (3x)
Potion: Mage Armor
Potion: Cure Light Wounds
Potion: Cure Moderate Wounds
Credit: 3rd level potion (unchosed)
Medal of Valor
Ring of +2 Str
Credit: one +1 enchantment to armor or shield or bracers of armor +1 (unchosen)

Spells:
L1:
Cure Light Wounds (2x)
Engangle

The +2 Str item is not a ring. It is a Belt of giant strength +2.